I wonder what people think is more important, providing cheap sustainable electricity for the citizen, or a round of golf for the privileged?

Donald Trump, the well known ‘Green’ activist is apparently outraged.

Like or loathe Alex Salmond he has said that he wants Scotland to produce the equivalent of 100% of his countries, let’s not pretend they are really a part of the UK anymore, electricity needs from renewable sources by 2020. I would have thought this is a perfectly sane and rational decision from a Scottish Parliamentarian to take in his nations interests.

Mr Trump thinks that the presence of a mere 11 wind turbines in Aberdeen Bay will so blight the spot that his one billion pound golf resort will become less profitable. The turbines will spoil his customers sea view. Shouldn’t you keep your eye on the ball when playing golf? He claims that Scotland will become a third world wasteland that foreign investors will avoid. At least it’s citizens will be able to make tea into the future!

Thanks BBC for the information here http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-17826561

Now far be from me to criticise Mr Trump, I am sure he is an altruistic kind of guy. He has said that he will spend 10 million pounds on fighting the wind turbines erection. The erection of the turbines will bring lasting fiscal benefit and employment opportunities stretching into the future beyond the demise of Mr Trump and his personal money making enterprises. He complains that wind power is not effective without subsidy. Well, if we all paid the actual cost of things instead of subsidised costs of things perhaps we would all be less inclined to use more than we need.

Who the hell does Trump think he is? He is not Scottish, he does not live in Scotland, he has only invested a paltry 1bn pounds. The offshore farm is worth 30bn of investment.

Trump cares about the planet I am sure, that is why he seems to take every opportunity to fly everywhere. He could surely have presented his evidence to the committee via internet conference call or whatever. However, he chose to fly to make a personal appearance.

Perhaps Mr Trump is feeling the pinch in these financially straightened times, in November 2011 he claimed to be worth 7bn dollars US. At 65 does he think he has time left to spend all the money he has made off the backs of the poor and the blighted?

Trump is supposed to be a businessman. A business man looks for opportunities for profit continuing into the future, rather than the blinkered view of the flash Harry quick buck merchant. Mr Trump it seems has become myopic in his dotage, he cannot see the extended profit of wind power. The capital cost may be large but the investment stream will last way beyond the grass he is cultivating.

Does Trump really believe that leisure should take precedence over investment in infrastructure? An infrastructure designed to work far beyond peak oil, when his customer base will no longer be able to fly, except maybe by airship or hot air balloon. He could probably provide all the hot air, at a cost, for his chums to inflate said balloons.

Employment for the local economy? I suppose Trumps customers can look forward to being caddied by exclusively Scots caddies? Accommodation serviced by exclusively Scots staff? I think not, cheap labour flown in from the Phillipines or wherever.ย  If they are looked after by Scots people, they will probably be humiliated by being forced to wear the Tartan Trump, wear plaid and walk around greeting guests with a cheery ‘Och aye the noo‘ and other US held stereotypical attributes given to the Scots.

Trump would probably rather we used oil, coal or nuclear. If the Scottish Parliament collapses and agrees not to put the wind farm in the bay, I hope they put a socking great nuclear plant right next door to Trumps Tee.

Mr Trump, you cannot be a nimby here, even your yard ain’t that big.

  1. He probably thinks his yard is that big though. Great post. Am off to read the bbc now although I doubt you left anything unsaid!

  2. Well, it’s an interesting debate and the extreme opinions on each side make it sound simple – which it certainly isn’t! I like wind turbines and I like playing golf. I probably come down on the side of the turbines because we need alternative forms of energy but the golf club probably employs more people than the wind farm ever will!

    • Ahh but what will they do when the power runs out! Also, simple I can do, complex …

      As I say, jobs are great but will they be for local people? I suspect not.

  3. Another complex debate! Jobs that local people won’t do? In Lincolnshire evereyone complains about foreign labour but the truth is they will work in the fields cutting cabbage for ten hours when local people won’t. I blame the education system that has created pointless education and meaningless courses that has raised expectations that have bypassed manual labour as a career choice! I don’t blame the eastern Europeans for having spotted an opportunity and filled the gap!

    • Couldn’t agree more. All our offspring want to be astronauts, brain surgeons or money people. No-one wants to build or till the soil anymore. The government encouraging aspiration is not really a bad thing but we can’t all be office workers and expect to be fed.

      However, I won’t get onto sustainable agriculture here.

  4. Far be it from me to jump into this one here but …… foreign (or any) labour that comes in and undercuts the going rate is not a good thing. People work in foreign countries for less money than the locals because it is more money than they get at home. Now, that is simple. And if you want an example I can quote a different one for every day of the year here.

    I can also quote a British agricultural worker who was struggling to compete with eastern european immigrants that were doing more and more of the field work. Not cos locals didn’t want to do it, but because they drove down the wages.

    I see no reason why people should cut cabbages for ten hours a day for shit money. I bet Andrew wouldn’t do it. Unless the golf course was closed of course.

    • It’s a fair point but then again how much can you reasonably expect to be paid for cutting cabbages? I’m not sure it is always about wicked capatalist bosses exploiting the working classes. Local people expect skilled brain surgeons wages for simple manual tasks and should not be surprised if others will spot the opportunity and undercut them!

      • A fair point, but why should you pay someone to do whay you could do yourself. The problem is we in britain want lots of food but don’t want to pay a half way decent (compared to the cost of living) ammount for it. We want great food at poverty prices which farmers cannot afford. Simples.

  5. Certainly the minimum wage, and if skilled and productive workers have negotiated a higher rate than that shouldn’t be lost. The issue is about when someone is in a job, and someone else is so desperate that they will come in and do it for less. Not blaming the incredibly capitalist employers (who I do think are wicked and exploitative) because I would do the same thing in their shoes. Maybe.

    But what is the added value to so-called working classes, of someone of the same ‘class’ coming in and undercutting the rate? There is nothing remotely socialist principled radical or thinking about any of that. All it does is serve to drive the wages down further.

    I must have you confused with someone else. I thought you criticised Margaret Thatcher for her attitude and approach towards working class people.

    • Yeay way to go (awful Americanism sorry) but not always someone of the same class, such an English thing, I have known extremely well educated people from ‘good’ families doing crap menial work just to have a job. The real difference is the mindset, foreigner I want a job, English I want a job that pays a LOT more than the dole otherwise I ain’t working.

  6. It’s a two way thing. Capitalist bosses can only exploit the working classes if the working classes don’t organise themselves properly to stop it. In the UK they have been diverted from the class issue by the promise of so called university places and the (non-existent) promise of well paid employment thereafter. People do what they have to do. Whose most to blame? I don’t know!

    • Oh and Thatcher beating the unions into a complete shambles. Scargill, a man I have little sympathy with (did you know at the time of the strike he has a luxury apartment in the Barbican paid for by the NUM?), could not be accused of being weak and he could not defeat the combined force of Thatcher Parliament and the Pigpen. There is nothing that I would recognise as a union in the UK any more.

      • I come from Yks. I know about Scargill. I know how he rose to fame on the back of a colliery disaster. A post (and not a favourable one) in its own right.

      • I’m not surprised you know about Scargill, your background and locale. I only really got to know him, through the media during the strike and through managing the residential units in the City Of London’s Barbican centre, the rent he paid he could probably feed the striking miners from an entire colliery on a monthly basis. The NUM did not want to talk about that though did they

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